{"id":13390,"date":"2019-01-31T12:30:08","date_gmt":"2019-01-31T20:30:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/bensettle.com\/blog\/?p=13390"},"modified":"2019-01-31T12:30:08","modified_gmt":"2019-01-31T20:30:08","slug":"how-to-build-a-list-without-the-visibility-of-social-media","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bensettle.com\/blog\/how-to-build-a-list-without-the-visibility-of-social-media\/","title":{"rendered":"How To Build A List Without The Visibility Of Social Media"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A reader asks the magic list building question:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Hi Ben,<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>This prob will sound like I\u2019m an idiot when I ask you this.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>How do you build a list without the visibility of social media ?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Just to clarify my background, I am about to turn 51, and I\u2019ve been a pharmacist for 30 years. I\u2019m burned out and have been following you for about 2 months. I was trying to figure out how to build a list by using social media, and now this advice<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>You told me recently not to sign up for email players til I had an offer. I still got nothing.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Props for your Villians book. Have actually been giving some \u201clife\u201d advice to my 21 year old son based on some of your observations.<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>You can still build a list using social media.<\/p>\n<p>I just don\u2019t mess with it anymore.<\/p>\n<p>Mainly because of its incessant thought-policing, politically-motivated de-platforming, blatant privacy abuse, and their data-sharing\/leaking schemes&#8230; plus there have been many unintended marketing benefits I wasn\u2019t expecting such as the massive increase in productivity, clarity of thinking, freed up time, less accessibility (which has resulted in more demand for my attention i.e. buying what I sell, a nice side benefit&#8230;), etc. But I would never say not to use paid social media ads if you want to use them. I have used paid ads from Facebook, Twitter, and Google to build my list in the past. And, I have gotten many leads doing so. And while you can scale those leads, the quality paled in comparison to the leads I get now. Plus, I don\u2019t have to follow all these sites\u2019 goofy ever-changing rules, either.<\/p>\n<p>The trade off is, I don\u2019t get as many leads.<\/p>\n<p>But, since I\u2019m a 4 quarters vs 100 pennies kinda guy, that suits me just fine.<\/p>\n<p>Plus, it&#8217;s rare for a long-term customer to have found me via a Facebook or Google ad.\u00a0Almost all come from referral-based leads. And,\u00a0I can \u201csiphon\u201d away the best quality leads from the above platforms, free, now.<\/p>\n<p>How?<\/p>\n<p>By using a couple ways I talked a little bit about in the December \u201cEmail Players\u201d issue, one of which I am &#8220;zooming in&#8221; on in depth, with an example of how it\u2019s done, in the upcoming February issue.<\/p>\n<p>But, a word of warning:<\/p>\n<p>This method can help someone build a list from scratch.<\/p>\n<p>And, the leads will very likely be high quality.<\/p>\n<p>Certainly higher quality than random social media leads.<\/p>\n<p>But, it takes time and it takes patience. And, I don\u2019t recommend someone who has no list or presence in their chosen market subscribe thinking this is going to be the magic list building method that liberates them from the 9-5 world.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s a tool for the toolbox.<\/p>\n<p>And, you can\u2019t build a house with just one tool\u2026<\/p>\n<p>The deadline to get this issue is later today.<\/p>\n<p>(When I send the list to the printer)<\/p>\n<p>After that, I\u2019m disabling it in the shopping cart so nobody can subscribe until next month, when it will be way too late to get it.<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s the link:<\/p>\n<p>http:\/\/www.EmailPlayers.com<\/p>\n<p>Ben Settle<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A reader asks the magic list building question: Hi Ben, This prob will sound like I\u2019m an idiot when I ask you this. How do you build a list without the visibility of social media ? Just to clarify my background, I am about to turn 51, and I\u2019ve been a pharmacist for 30 years. 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