{"id":13972,"date":"2019-10-18T05:10:16","date_gmt":"2019-10-18T12:10:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/bensettle.com\/blog\/?p=13972"},"modified":"2019-10-18T05:10:16","modified_gmt":"2019-10-18T12:10:16","slug":"yahoo-deletes-era-of-marketing-wizardry","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bensettle.com\/blog\/yahoo-deletes-era-of-marketing-wizardry\/","title":{"rendered":"Yahoo deletes era of marketing wizardry"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>About 18 years ago \u2014 give or take a month \u2014 when I first tumbled into the rabbit hole of direct response marketing and copywriting, I somehow stumbled into a secret Yahoo! group I somehow found full of A-list marketers &amp; copywriters &amp; other assorted multi-million dollar business owners &amp; gurus whose names you&#8217;d instantly recognize and who you&#8217;ve probably bought lots of stuff from over the years since.<\/p>\n<p>Surprisingly, that group never grew past 500 people.<\/p>\n<p>And, even more surprisingly, it remained virtually a secret for 19 years.<\/p>\n<p>I remember printing reams of pages of stuff they talked about in there and studying it like a NYT reporter studying Trump&#8217;s tax returns. Whenever someone like John Carlton started riffing about something off the cuff about writing sales copy, or Perry Marshall dropped some valuable intel about PPC, or when I saw the great Paul Hartunian debate another guy in there about direct mail vs the internet\u2026 it was more valuable than anything I was reading in the paid books &amp; courses I had.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, here&#8217;s the point of all this meandering:<\/p>\n<p>A couple nights ago, I heard Yahoo is shutting all their groups down.<\/p>\n<p>And, it got me to thinking about some of the takeaways that stuck in my psyche all these years.<\/p>\n<p>Like, for example:<\/p>\n<p>1. The great John Carlton saying how in all his years of mauling the English language, he\u2019d never lost a single known sale because of a typo. And, in fact, he\u2019d had entire pages missing from promotions that still made bank because what really matters is the story and salesmanship.<\/p>\n<p>Admittedly, I&#8217;ve had nothing but contempt for towards Spelling Nazis since\u2026<\/p>\n<p>2. The great Paul Hartunian talking about how the \u201ctechnology\u201d of direct mail never changes.<\/p>\n<p>Stamp, envelope, mailbox.<\/p>\n<p>This is something probably only 5 or 6 people reading this email will care about much less understand. But I can say it was, without a doubt, one of the most valuable insights I\u2019ve ever seen, and is responsible, in many ways, for the kind of business I\u2019ve built.<\/p>\n<p>3. The great Phil Alexander deconstructing Dan Kennedy\u2019s original (and I believe superior) NO BS Time Management book, and showing \u2014 page by page \u2014 all the ways Dan combined content with promotion in such a masterful way, you are buying his other offers without even realizing you\u2019re being sold to.<\/p>\n<p>To say that had an effect on how I write emails &amp; books\u2019d be a Trump-ego sized understatement.<\/p>\n<p>More:<\/p>\n<p>I am the first to proclaim free is the new expensive.<\/p>\n<p>And how free is rarely valued.<\/p>\n<p>But, in this case, the opposite was true.<\/p>\n<p>Maybe that\u2019s why everyone basically kept it a secret all those years\u2026?<\/p>\n<p>Whatever the case, don\u2019t ask me how to join it or whatever.<\/p>\n<p>That ship has sailed, Chuckles.<\/p>\n<p>But, it\u2019s not too late to realize the really valuable stuff ain\u2019t on Facebook or Twitter or social media by secret gurus pounding their chests about how great they think they are. If you get all your info there, you\u2019re doing your studying in the wrong library. The really powerful stuff is more likely to be found in dusty old barely-functioning forums, populated by old school marketing masters 20+ years ago writing off-the-cuff with no agenda to sell anything, when the internet was still in its diapers.<\/p>\n<p>I reckon there are still a few of them out there somewhere.<\/p>\n<p>And if\/when you find them, don\u2019t take them for granted.<\/p>\n<p>You never know when the platform hosting them will disappear.<\/p>\n<p>Along with 19+ years of posts\u2026<\/p>\n<p>All right, enough of this.<\/p>\n<p>Let\u2019s get on to the business:<\/p>\n<p>Of the 3 insights above, the 3rd one about combining content with promotion in a way that people enjoy consuming is the most valuable I\u2019ve used as far as email, content creation, and sales copy goes. Frankly, it\u2019s the backbone of everything I do up in this business. It\u2019s what can let you stand out in the inbox, get read before everyone else, and make you more sales than everyone else. It\u2019s a skill you can also apply to any other kind of persuasive communication, too\u2014including social media, videos, podcasts, sales copy, blog posts, articles, books, public speaking, and anything else. It\u2019s also a thread of teaching that runs \u2014 \u201cbetween the lines\u201d \u2014 through the past 99 \u201cEmail Players\u201d newsletter issues I\u2019ve published (the Nov issue is the milestone 100th issue\u2026) and the \u201cEmail Players Skh?ma Book\u201d (that comes with your \u201cEmail Players\u201d subscription). It\u2019s the one thing that can let you both sell and build the relationship with your list\u00a0simultaneously\u2014saving you from months and years of low sales, dealing with low class leads, and constantly wondering why the best buyers are fleeing from you instead of buying from you.<\/p>\n<p>If you want this skill, then my \u201cEmail Players\u201d newsletter can give it to you.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s not something you learn today and get rich with by next week.<\/p>\n<p>Nor is it seckys or \u201cninja\u201d or bright shiny object-y, either.<\/p>\n<p>But it is a learnable skill.<\/p>\n<p>That is, if you have the patience, the character, and ambition to do so.<\/p>\n<p>If you do, then you can learn it here:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.EmailPlayers.com\"><strong>www.EmailPlayers.com<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Ben Settle<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>About 18 years ago \u2014 give or take a month \u2014 when I first tumbled into the rabbit hole of direct response marketing and copywriting, I somehow stumbled into a secret Yahoo! group I somehow found full of A-list marketers &amp; copywriters &amp; other assorted multi-million dollar business owners &amp; gurus whose names you&#8217;d instantly [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[8,14],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-13972","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","6":"category-copywriting-and-sales-letters","7":"category-sales-marketing"},"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/bensettle.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13972","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/bensettle.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/bensettle.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bensettle.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bensettle.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=13972"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/bensettle.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13972\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/bensettle.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=13972"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bensettle.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=13972"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bensettle.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=13972"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}