Free Ken McCarthy Copywriting Interview

Recently, I got a copy of Ken McCarthy’s newest book:

The System Club Letters: 57 Big Ideas To Transform
Your Business And Your Life”

I have since read it (cover to cover) 9 times — and am now on my 10th.

I suspect I’ll read it several more times before I’m through with it.

And you know what?

I am now going to do my best to persuade YOU to read it, too.

In fact, I think this book is so important for Internet marketers, copywriters and anyone selling online, I’m going to give you a valuable gift just for looking at it — even though I have no affiliate, joint venture, or other financial interest in whether you buy it or not.

I’ll tell you more about this gift in a minute.

For now, let me tell you a little bit about the book.

First of all, this book contains 57 in-depth marketing, business and copywriting lessons that were originally private letters to Ken’s “System Club” members.

If you don’t already know, The System Club is the most exclusive (and expensive — over $1,000 per year!) Internet marketing organization in the world.

You cannot join unless you:

          1.) Attend a live System Seminar training (a $2,000+ price tag) or…

          2.) Are personally invited.

Its membership includes some of the world’s most elite marketers (such as Gary Bencivenga, for example), many of who are amongst the richest business people on the planet.

And these System Club Letters — while extremely short and easy to read — are D-E-E-P.

Seriously.

I’m starting to think of Ken McCarthy as the “Socrates” of Marketing.

Reason why is because I’ve read a LOT of Ken’s writings.

I went through his “Advanced Copywriting For Serious Info Marketers” course multiple times.

I’ve had several phone conversations and email exchanges with him.

And one thing I’ve noticed about Ken is this:

Just like the great thinkers of old, there are the lessons you see on the “surface” — like the solid marketing and copywriting principles, the life-or-death importance of positioning, the personal and financial rewards of selling with integrity, etc.

And then there’s the stuff “between the lines” you can only get by peeling back the onion (so to speak) and taking a closer look.

Yes, you can learn a LOT from the surface stuff.

But the “under layer” stuff can literally change your life.

Such as the chapter in The System Club Letters about why a VERY high number of marketing pros (that make millions of dollars per year) are raging jazz fans.

Or his lesson about the dangers of participating in the latest guru-of-the-month’s “feeding frenzy” (where you send your list the exact same message as dozens of other affiliates within a very tight time period).

Or the “un-sexy” way he gets exponentially higher conversion rates than other affiliates when he sells other peoples’ products.

Frankly, I almost think chapter 52 (titled, “In Praise Of Fathers”) should be required reading for anyone in business.

Why?

Because this one chapter alone teaches you more about business ethics, prosperity and success than any course, seminar, or coaching program ever could.

Those are just a few examples.

Again, there are 57 lessons in all.

And they cover everything from Internet marketing and copywriting to direct mail and general business advice.

Anyway, I know this is getting dangerously close to sounding like a “sales pitch.”

And in a way, I guess it is.

You see, I believe every marketer should read this book.

And that’s why, to “encourage” you to get it, I’m going to do something that may seem strange.

I’m going to make an offer for a product I don’t even sell.

Here’s what I mean:

Last summer, Ken let me interview him for a book I was writing.

And, unlike a lot copywriting instruction today, his interview contains dozens of advanced copywriting lessons you can actually USE — and not just read, nod and file away.

And make no mistake about it:

Ken has a LOT to say on this subject.

Even though he’s mostly known for being an Internet marketing pioneer, he’s also one of the best copywriters on the planet.

For example:

He literally gets “fan mail” about his ads from Gary Bencivenga (who’s universally called the greatest living copywriter) and Marty Edelston (founder of one of the world’s biggest direct mail companies).

Dan Kennedy has been using samples of Ken’s work for years in his teachings and seminars — including in his best-selling copywriting book, “The Ultimate Sales Letter.”

And when Agora Publishing (another direct mail powerhouse) needed someone to teach the first (and most important) lesson of their advanced copywriting course… the first two people they called were the legendary Jay Abraham… and Ken McCarthy.

So Ken definitely knows his stuff.

And some of the things we talked about in this interview include:

  • How to write money-making ads right out the gate — without needing any copywriting books, formulas or swipe files.
  • A scientifically proven way (recently discovered by neurologists) to transform your frustration with writing ads into boundless creative energy.
  • A $13 book (not even about copywriting) that can teach you more about writing irresistible bullet points than most advanced copywriting seminars.
  • Why tossing your order forms on the street can increase your response by as much as 30%.
  • How to use your telephone to double your sales without doing any tele-marketing or even dialing any numbers.
  • An “almost fool proof” way of knowing if the market is going to respond to your ads before testing it or showing it to anyone.
  • What Ken learned from corresponding with the late (great) copywriting genius Eugene Schwartz.
  • How to create professional looking Internet video ads on a “shoestring” budget.
  • A single, “magic word” (often used with CNN newcasts) that will have your prospects glued to your ads — even with a hundred other ads competing for their attention.
  • A secret way to use your TV set to raise your IQ by 10 points. (And without even turning it on!)
  • How the legendary copywriter Mel Martin wrote ads so powerful people would order from them without even knowing what the price was.

And a whole lot more.

Anyway, here’s the deal:

If you buy “The System Club Letters” book (it only costs $20), and then email me your receipt at ben (at) bensettle.com, I will send you the MP3 of my interview with Ken… and I will send it to you free.

Again, I do NOT have a joint venture or affiliate arrangement with Ken on his book.

Whether or not you buy it has no impact on my finances either way.

I just really believe this book can make a dramatic difference in any business owner’s life.

You can grab your copy of “The System Club Letters” at:

www.RealMarketingBooks.com

The Secret Of Hyper Responsive Lists

QUESTION: A while back you mentioned some great e-letters you read for ideas and inspiration and it was very useful. Do you have any other e-letters you recommend for becoming better at selling with emails?

BEN: Actually… yes. One person I forgot to mention is “Shameless” Shamus Brown.

Shamus sells information on how to be a better salesman.

And his emails are often packed with great information.

In fact, I think anyone who wants to become better at selling (including selling in print or email) should be reading his daily e-letters.

You can check out his site, sign up for his list, and learn about his products at:

www.IndustrialEgo.com

(NOTE: This next one was a response to an interview I used to give away free (I no longer do, too valuable) about press releases, and I used to make people opt-in to a special list to get it.

QUESTION: Ben for God’s sake IF I Am Already Your subscribe WHY do I have to Subscribe AGAIN/One more time in order to get your report? That’s Insane!! Why don’t you just send Your Current Subscribers the report right away, and keep this form here for people who are NOT your subscribers yet?

BEN: Holy cow! That would be insane… IF… that’s what I was doing.

Instead, what I’m doing is what’s called “list segmentation.”

You see, most marketers understand building a list, and most marketers do it. Where almost everyone goes wrong is not “segmenting” their lists.

For example:

In addition to my blog list, I also have a swipe file list.

That’s the list you get on when you sign up for my “How To Instantly Build A Million Dollar Swipe File” report and ezine.

This ezine ONLY goes to people interested in swipe files.

Whenever I find new swipe file ads or resources, I contact the swipe file list and NOT the main blog list. I never talk about (or make offers about) anything other than swipe files to this list.

And it was the same with the press release/publicity list and ezine.

When you signed up for that list, you were NOT “rejoining” my main blog list.

You joined a completely separate “segment” of my blog list designed to appeal to people who want to use PR to build their businesses. The tips and offers to that list are ONLY about using publicity — and not swipe files, copywriting or anything else.

Anyway, there’s a LOT more to list segmentation.

And maybe in the future we can talk about it more.

I will say this though:

If you aren’t segmenting your lists you are almost certainly leaving money on the table.

In fact, in my humble (but accurate) opinion, list segmentation is one of the single most profitable things you can do.

Yet, it’s still so little-known it’s considered “insane.”

Sheesh.

QUESTION: I was wondering if there were any resources on your blog which would guide me as to what ACTION steps can be taken to create clients. I want to Do, but need a few words of advice. And if you can guide me I’d be grateful.

BEN: Check out the interview I did a few months ago with Ryan Healy:

www.BenSettle.com/Interviews/Ryan-Healy-Freelance

I can’t imagine anyone following Ryan’s advice in that interview and NOT having a paying client in the next couple of weeks.

QUESTION: I was reading your blog archives last night and I laughed out loud when I read your post about receiving a whole bunch of sales pitches. I publish a newsletter too in (name removed) niche and the bigger my list gets the more complaints I receive. Do you have advice on reducing the number of complaints?

BEN: Well, for one thing, don’t take it personally.

I don’t care how much valuable content you provide, there’ll ALWAYS be someone who whines and complains. Just like the person above who freaked out about having to — GASP! — give up their name and email to listen to a valuable lesson on writing press releases.

Here’s a nickel’s worth of free advice to put your mind at ease:

Ignore these people or (even better) remove them from your list manually.

Just scroll down to the bottom of their email (assuming they replied to your list message) and click that “unsubscribe” link for ‘em.

Put them out of your misery.

Also, if you use aweber, turn off the function where people can leave you comments when they unsubscribe.

Why?

Because many unsubscribe messages are completely inane comments from people who sound like they need some serious psychiatric help.

Heck, if it really bothers you, get someone to “screen” your emails for you.

I know that may sound extreme.

But let’s face it: Business is challenging enough without a bunch of pointless negativity gunking up your mind.

QUESTION: Any tips on integrating direct mail in conjunction with my online marketing?

BEN: I’m really glad you asked this question because I totally forgot to mention this to you guys before. The interview I did with Doberman Dan Gallapoo for my “Copywriting Grab Bag” book talks about using direct mail in detail. And (for now) it’s freely available on Dan’s website at:

www.DobermanDan.com

You can find it in issue #9 of his newsletter archives.

But hurry.

This interview may not remain free like this much longer.

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Okay, that’ll do it for today.

If you have any questions you’d like answered in future Q&A’s you can contact me at:

www.BenSettle.com/blog/contact

See you next time…