In which the question of the hour is asked:

“In your experience, what are the best ways to weed out non-buyers? I sometimes delete readers who haven’t bought anything for over five years and only ask questions by email. One of the most important things I learned from you was the quality of the list, not its size. That’s why I only focus on growing the buyer list, not the reader list. I would be interested in your best practices on how to weed out non-buyers via the daily email, so to speak.”

Here are my thoughts on it:

* Do not whole cloth delete the non-buyers

* After all, you never know when they will become buyers

* The people replying are great to keep on your list for fodder (questions, trolls, ideas)

* They are also great to keep on your list because Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo, etc see them replying to you and see you are a real person, and that can potentially help your inbox deliverability – if anything, you should want more of them

* If you want a clean list I suggest scrubbing your list

* When scrubbing your list remove the bots and catch-all addresses “help@“ or “admin@“, “swipe@” and all the other ones probably nobody is checking or engaging with

I will also say this:

This has been coming up more and more and more over the past year or so. Probably even longer, for all I know. So until proven otherwise I will just assume someone is prancing around a mastermind room somewhere teaching people to delete everyone who hasn’t opened, bought, or engaged in 30 or 90 days or whatever. I will also assume until proven otherwise it’s something people who have no clue how the long game of email or direct marketing actually works teach to others who have even less of a clue — and how unreliable tracking opens at all is in the first place.

Of course, some dork on social media will now probably say:

“Ben says not to track!”

No, Maynard.

What I am saying is that a lot of email tracking is unreliable.

Useful?

Yes, especially when looking at trends over time.

Profitable?

Of course, if you use it right.

We even have tracking and automation mechanisms (designed by my biz partner Troy Broussard — an actual scientist, who gets how for real scientific testing works from being both a Navy Nuclear Engineer and from when he was the Executive Director of Technology for Encyclopedia Brittanica running a $12 million department of developers… not to mention when he was doing all the test/tracking/automation for as many as 50 million emails per month as a consultant) baked in BerserkerMail, after all. But if you think all the major email clients from Gmail to Yahoo to Hotmail to Protonmail to Apple’s Mail and everyone in between are not making it harder — and certainly not easier — to track, by design, to protect their users from you… then, well, I don’t know what to tell you.

Go ahead and delete your whole list for all I care.

Because if you keep deleting people whole cloth you’ll get the same results either way.

My opinion.

It’s also been my experience, too, for over 20 years.

When you send emails people want to read that sell offers people want, you start seeing how many people are buying without being tracked, are not shown as opening or clicking anything yet you still see them buying… and in some cases are maybe not even on your list at all — as someone who is on your list who is also not being tracked by today’s flawed tracking software told them about you, they found you, bought, and the list goes on.

That’ll do it for today.

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Even when you’re simply just selling stuff, your emails are, in effect, brilliant content for marketers who want to see how to make sales copy incapable of being ignored by their core market. You are a master of this rare skill, Ben, and I tip my hat in respect.

Gary Bencivenga

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I confess that I have only begun watching Ben closely and corresponding with him fairly recently, my mistake. At this point, it is, bluntly, very rare to discover somebody I find intelligent, informed, interesting and inspiring, and that is how I would describe Ben Settle.

Dan S. Kennedy

Author, ’No BS’ book series

Ben is one of the sharpest marketing minds on the planet, and he runs his membership “Email Players” better than just about any other I’ve seen. I highly recommend it.

Perry Marshall

Author of 8 books whose Google book laid the foundations for the $100 billion Pay Per Click industry, whose prestigious 80/20 work has been used by NASA’s Jet Propulsion Labs, and whose historic reinvention of the Pareto Principle is published in Harvard Business Review.

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I think Ben is the light heavyweight champion of email copywriting. I ass-lo think we’d make Mayweather money in a unification title bout!

Matt Furey

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Zen Master Of The Internet®

President of The Psycho-Cybernetics Foundation

Just want you to know I get great advice and at least one chuckle… or a slap on the forehead “duh”… every time I read your emails!

Carline Anglade-Cole

AWAI’s Copywriter of the Year Award winner and A-list copywriter who has written for Oprah and continually writes control packages for the world’s most prestigious (and competitive) alternative health direct marketing companies

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I’ve been reading your stuff for about a month. I love it. You are saying, in very arresting ways, things I’ve been trying to teach marketers and copywriters for 30 years. Keep up the good work!

Mark Ford

aka Michael Masterson

Cofounder of AWAI

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The business is so big now. Prob 4x the revenue since when we first met… and had you in! Claim credit, as it did correlate!

Joseph Schriefer

(Copy Chief at Agora Financial)

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I wake up to READ YOUR WORDS. I learn from you and study exactly how you combine words + feelings together. Like no other. YOU go DEEP and HARD.”

Lori Haller

(“A-List” designer who has worked on control sales letters and other projects for Oprah Winfrey, Gary Bencivenga, Clayton Makepeace, Jim Rutz, and more.

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I love your emails. Your e-mail style is stunningly effective.

Bob Bly

The man McGrawHill calls

America’s top copywriter

and bestselling author of over 75 books

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Ben might be a freaking genius. Just one insight he shared at the last Oceans 4 mastermind I can guarantee you will end up netting me at least an extra $100k in the next year.

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Ben Settle is a great contemporary source of copywriting wisdom. I’ve been a big admirer of Ben’s writing for a long time, and he’s the only copywriter I’ve ever hired and been satisfied with

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One of the “founding fathers”

of Internet marketing

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I start my day with reading from the Holy Bible and Ben Settle’s email, not necessarily in that order.

Richard Armstrong

A List direct mail copywriter

whose clients have included

Rodale, Boardroom, Reader’s Digest,

Men’s Health, Newsweek,

Prevention Health Magazine, the ASCPA

and, even, The Limbaugh Letter.

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Of all the people I follow there’s so much stuff that comes into my inbox from various copywriters and direct marketers and creatives, your stuff is about as good as it gets.

Brian Kurtz

Former Executive VP of Boardroom Inc. Named Marketer of the Year by Target Marketing magazine

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The f’in’ hottest email copywriter on the web now.

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The World’s Greatest Copywriting Coach

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Ben Settle is my email marketing mentor.

Tom Woods

Senior fellow of the Mises Institute, New York Times Bestselling Author, Prominent libertarian historian & author, and host of one of the longest running and most popular libertarian podcasts on the planet

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I’ve read your stuff and you have some of the best hooks. You really know how to work the hook and the angles.

Brian Clark

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Ben writes some of the most compelling subject lines I’ve ever seen, and implements a very unique style in his blog. Honestly, I can’t help but look when I get an email, or see a new post from him in my Google Reader.

Dr. Glenn Livingston

www.GlennLivingston.com

There are very, very few copywriters whose copy I not only read but save so I can study it… and Ben is on that short list. In fact, he’s so good… he kinda pisses me off. But don’t tell him I said that. 😉

Ray Edwards

Direct Response Copywriter

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You’re damn brilliant, dude…I really DO admire your work, my friend!

Brian Keith Voiles

A-list copywriter who has written winning ads for prestigious clients such as Jay Abraham, Ted Nicholas, Dr. Stephen R. Covey, Robert Allen, and Gary Halbert.

www.AdvertisingMagicCopywriting.com

We finally got to meet in person and you delivered a killer talk. Your emails are one of the very few I read and study. And your laid back style.. is just perfect!

Ryan Lee

Best-selling Author

“Entrepreneur” Magazine columnist

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There’s been a recent flood of copy writing “gurus” lately and I only trust ONE! And that’s @BenSettle

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AKA Hotep Jesus

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I’m so busy but there’s some guys like Ben Settle w/incredible daily emails that I always read.

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World class Internet marketer, author, and speaker

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